Comments on: Crystal Cauldron witches thrown out of the Our Lady’s Social Club http://words.inpurespirit.com/1350/crystal-cauldron-witches-thrown-out-of-the-our-ladys-social-club/ A blog discussing green and ethical wisdom / ancient and paranormal insight Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:46:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: PasserBy http://words.inpurespirit.com/1350/crystal-cauldron-witches-thrown-out-of-the-our-ladys-social-club/comment-page-1/#comment-265 PasserBy Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:52:30 +0000 http://words.inpurespirit.com/?p=1350#comment-265 4. The "heathen" world is defined as "anyone not Christian" by most Christians, and to say that they don't welcome other faiths is ignorant, because they ARE all the other faiths of the world. If groups such as Wiccans or Druids did not have some sort of guidelines that define their group as different, then they wouldn't be a group, would they? And why do you want to be a part of something you don't believe? 5. Either every group has a right to exist, or no group does. Respecting those boundaries is how to live at peace with your neighbors. If you live to criticize others for simply not believing what you do, then you are the problem. If others are terrorizing you because of your beliefs, then you have a right to defend your group. Just my opinion, passing through. My beliefs? Earth-centered spirituality. Ex Abrahamic god believer. 4. The "heathen" world is defined as "anyone not Christian" by most Christians, and to say that they don't welcome other faiths is ignorant, because they ARE all the other faiths of the world. If groups such as Wiccans or Druids did not have some sort of guidelines that define their group as different, then they wouldn't be a group, would they? And why do you want to be a part of something you don't believe?
5. Either every group has a right to exist, or no group does. Respecting those boundaries is how to live at peace with your neighbors. If you live to criticize others for simply not believing what you do, then you are the problem. If others are terrorizing you because of your beliefs, then you have a right to defend your group.

Just my opinion, passing through. My beliefs? Earth-centered spirituality. Ex Abrahamic god believer.

]]> By: PasserBy http://words.inpurespirit.com/1350/crystal-cauldron-witches-thrown-out-of-the-our-ladys-social-club/comment-page-1/#comment-266 PasserBy Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:52:03 +0000 http://words.inpurespirit.com/?p=1350#comment-266 1. Historically, Chrisitans are not "good neighbors" unless you belong to their belief system or are a potential sheep-like convert. This reaction should have been expected. 2. If the church knew the group was pagan but waited to cancel, the church is at fault and should reimburse the group for new tickets. If the pagan group hid the fact it was pagan, that's deceptive and they deserve no reimbursement. A pagan living in the modern world is not that naive to what the world thinks of them. 3. To book a pagan event at such a place seems to have ulterior motives and not just having a place for a party. Frankly, it sounds like a set-up for an excuse to call them discriminatory, when we already know that they are. Why potentially spoil your event? (continued) 1. Historically, Chrisitans are not "good neighbors" unless you belong to their belief system or are a potential sheep-like convert. This reaction should have been expected.
2. If the church knew the group was pagan but waited to cancel, the church is at fault and should reimburse the group for new tickets. If the pagan group hid the fact it was pagan, that's deceptive and they deserve no reimbursement. A pagan living in the modern world is not that naive to what the world thinks of them.
3. To book a pagan event at such a place seems to have ulterior motives and not just having a place for a party. Frankly, it sounds like a set-up for an excuse to call them discriminatory, when we already know that they are. Why potentially spoil your event?
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]]> By: Angela http://words.inpurespirit.com/1350/crystal-cauldron-witches-thrown-out-of-the-our-ladys-social-club/comment-page-1/#comment-264 Angela Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:58:36 +0000 http://words.inpurespirit.com/?p=1350#comment-264 This is not a matter of how many venues there are in Stockport!! This is about one venue, our ladys social club and the church members associated with it who activly discriminated against a pagan group who it would seem approached them in good faith. And lets answer the big question......Why does this group supposedly not fit in with the Christian values espoused by said venue?? This is another clear example of misguided, uninformed bigotry by the Church. This is not a matter of how many venues there are in Stockport!!
This is about one venue, our ladys social club and the church members associated with it who activly discriminated against a pagan group who it would seem approached them in good faith. And lets answer the big question……Why does this group supposedly not fit in with the Christian values espoused by said venue??
This is another clear example of misguided, uninformed bigotry by the Church.

]]> By: J Bennett http://words.inpurespirit.com/1350/crystal-cauldron-witches-thrown-out-of-the-our-ladys-social-club/comment-page-1/#comment-262 J Bennett Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:27:35 +0000 http://words.inpurespirit.com/?p=1350#comment-262 Can I just say the the heathen world does not welcome other faith & religions with open arms ..... Can I just say the the heathen world does not welcome other faith & religions with open arms …..

]]> By: J Bennett http://words.inpurespirit.com/1350/crystal-cauldron-witches-thrown-out-of-the-our-ladys-social-club/comment-page-1/#comment-261 J Bennett Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:08:07 +0000 http://words.inpurespirit.com/?p=1350#comment-261 Of course the Christian world does its best by its neighbours - the point is that the heathen world & the christian world are poles apart & Sandra knowing the way the land lies could have avoiding her disappointment if she had booked neutral ground believe me there are plenty of venues in Stockport that would have accepted the booking gladly ............. Of course the Christian world does its best by its neighbours – the point is that the heathen world & the christian world are poles apart & Sandra knowing the way the land lies could have avoiding her disappointment if she had booked neutral ground believe me there are plenty of venues in Stockport that would have accepted the booking gladly ………….

]]> By: Andrew Girdwood http://words.inpurespirit.com/1350/crystal-cauldron-witches-thrown-out-of-the-our-ladys-social-club/comment-page-1/#comment-260 Andrew Girdwood Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:38:25 +0000 http://words.inpurespirit.com/?p=1350#comment-260 You don't think the Christian world tries its best to do good to its neighbours? You don't think the Christian world tries its best to do good to its neighbours?

]]> By: J Bennett http://words.inpurespirit.com/1350/crystal-cauldron-witches-thrown-out-of-the-our-ladys-social-club/comment-page-1/#comment-259 J Bennett Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:25:42 +0000 http://words.inpurespirit.com/?p=1350#comment-259 Sorry Sandra there are lots of venues in Stockport to host your annual event a bit small minded of you to book Our Ladys when your worlds are miles apart ............ Sorry Sandra there are lots of venues in Stockport to host your annual event a bit small minded of you to book Our Ladys when your worlds are miles apart …………

]]> By: Andrew Girdwood http://words.inpurespirit.com/1350/crystal-cauldron-witches-thrown-out-of-the-our-ladys-social-club/comment-page-1/#comment-258 Andrew Girdwood Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:45:12 +0000 http://words.inpurespirit.com/?p=1350#comment-258 Given the publicity this got - do you have any sense that the Church regrets its actions. Do you know if they made any overtures to Sandra? Given the publicity this got – do you have any sense that the Church regrets its actions. Do you know if they made any overtures to Sandra?

]]> By: Hecate http://words.inpurespirit.com/1350/crystal-cauldron-witches-thrown-out-of-the-our-ladys-social-club/comment-page-1/#comment-256 Hecate Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:06:48 +0000 http://words.inpurespirit.com/?p=1350#comment-256 Sandra has endeavoured to open her environment and spiritual beliefs to our community without discrimination. I feel it is a social comment on the catholic church that they can not be as receptive to other religions and cultures in these times but I feel compelled to say that this does not suprise me in the least. Bright blessings, Hecate. Sandra has endeavoured to open her environment and spiritual beliefs to our community without discrimination. I feel it is a social comment on the catholic church that they can not be as receptive to other religions and cultures in these times but I feel compelled to say that this does not suprise me in the least. Bright blessings, Hecate.

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